8mmSteyr Member Posts: 8 (11/10/02 9:56:11 am) Reply Edit Del All Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anybody know about the Nazi marked Star 9mm's on the auction sites? I had one in my hand yesterday (a Star, not a nazi) and was impressed with the fit and finish. Are there any crusty crufflers of fine spanish pistols out there that know the lowdown on what may be my next C&R purchase? 'Leave the gun.take the cannoli.' Xracer *TFF Senior Staff* Posts: 2984 (11/10/02 7:28:16 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yep.Bob in St.

The top is hinged to the bottom via its yellow covering. The top cover is marked with a large Star logo, a picture of the Model F, and “Cal.22 LR”. The top has an end panel with shows the correct make and serial number of this pistol, but refers to it as the Model F (We guess they had a few boxes left over from the previous year).

Louis is our expert on Spanish Potmetal Pistols. What he doesn't know about 'em, ain't worth knowing. Bob In St Louis *TFF Senior Staff* Posts: 3265 (11/10/02 9:25:53 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Put down the Star and RUN, do not walk, RUN away! The so called Star B pistols with the Nazi markings are mostly fakes. 99% of them you see available right now are from a Bulgarian delivery contract, which was delivered to the Ministry of War in Sophia, Bulgaria around the same time as the Nazi delivery contract.

These Bulgarians were never Nazi marked. The ones showing up on the market now were stamped with the waffenamts a year or two ago by an enterprising European Dealer who knew he could make more money on the American market with them if they had the Nazi markings. The Bulgarian contract pistols have been selling for about $140 to $160. With the fake markings, they have been bringing $199 from Coles, and now SOG has them back in their listings at $279 or some stupidly high figure. I have seen folks listing them on the auction sites for upwards of $500. CHECK IT OUT THOROUGHLY! REQUEST THE SERIAL NUMBER AND CHECK BACK WITH ME HERE.

I have listings of the true Nazi contract and the Bulgarian serial numbers. Crusty Cruffler of Fine Spanish Pistols - Eibar Rules! 8mmSteyr Member Posts: 9 (11/10/02 10:01:06 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Bob. It's a pity since these pistols were magnificent. Are the $140-160 ones refinished as well? And who has them?

I've never been a fan of the 9mm or of Spanish pistols (forgive me), but this gun got my attention. Actually, the fraudulent ones should me marked down below $140 that the unmarked pistols bring since they are 'damaged'. I'm kind of pissed that the guy didn't tell me about all this, and he must have known, but he said he had ALOT of them, so I suppose he wanted to move them. I'm glad I asked before buying, I would be REALLY upset to find all this out after the sale. So thanks for the heads up. BTW, he wants $225 each.

Cranky collector of cool Austrian-Hungarian carbines, Steyr rules. 'Leave the gun.take the cannoli.' Bob In St Louis *TFF Senior Staff* Posts: 3267 (11/11/02 6:31:39 am) Reply Edit Del Re: Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All the ones I have seen were arsenal refinished - that was one of the tell-tale signs on the waffenamts - if you look closely with a magnifying glass, you can tell it was applied after the pistol was reblued. SOG has the unmarked Star B pistols, or at least used to have them.

Crusty Cruffler of Fine Spanish Pistols - Eibar Rules! Stenguns Member Posts: 1 (1/11/03 2:21:50 pm) Reply Edit Del Re: Nazi Star? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I just bought tree of the Nazi Star B pistols from SOG.

I'm concerned after what I've heard that the Waffenampts might have been faked. Here's what I got: 1) s/n 229944 with plastic grips dated N with ~ over it (1943?) 2) s/n 232508 with wood grips dated same as above 3) s/n 238850 with wood grips dated same as above Guns # 2 and # 3 have had the slides re-numbered. There is the original last four digits of the s/n hatched out and have been re-numbered in smaller numbers with the last three digits of the s/n stamped on the frame. Gun # 1 appears to have an unaltered slide. Soundmax hd audio utility download. The guns which I initially thought were'nt import marked have cleverly had the import markings hidden on the frame behind the slide release. The import marks are 'PWA RDMD WA' presubably for Pac-West Arms of Redmond (or is it Olympia?), Washington.